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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:51 pm
Fernandez upset. Doesn't want Blazers to sign Turboglue:

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Portland's pursuit of a certain player from Turkey has infuriated the Trail Blazers' lone remaining Spanish player, Rudy Fernandez, to the point where he'd prefer to play in Greece, Russia or even Spain again, ESPN.com learned Tuesday.


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A league source told ESPN.com that Fernandez has already been courted informally by European powerhouses Olympiacos, Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and CSKA Moscow as word spread that the Blazers had become the apparent front-runners to land free agent Hedo Turkoglu.

Fernandez, who paid more than $500,000 of his own money to buy his way out of his contract with DKV Joventut, believes he can earn 5 million euros per season if he signs a three-year contract in Europe. He is due to make $1.1 million from the Blazers next season.

The problem for Fernandez from a leverage standpoint is that he is entering the second year of his NBA rookie contract, and the Blazers have the option to re-sign him for a third and/or fourth season. Fernandez would have to be released from his NBA contract in order to receive a letter of clearance from FIBA, the sport's international governing body, to play elsewhere.

The Blazers have been made aware of Fernandez's feelings, the source said. The source added that Fernandez has not formally requested a trade but has expressed his dissatisfaction with the way he was used by Portland coach Nate McMillan over the course of his rookie season. Fernandez averaged 26 minutes off the bench and scored 10.2 points per game, rarely handling the ball or acting as an offensive initiator -- two of Turkoglu's specialties.

If the Blazers were to sign Turkoglu, it could leave Fernandez in a reduced role -- backing up Brandon Roy at the two-guard spot and getting fewer minutes at small forward, where Fernandez and Travis Outlaw backed up Nicolas Batum last season.

Portland only recently severed its tied with its other Spanish player, dealing point guard Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento on draft night last Thursday after Rodriguez spent three years with the Blazers as the second- and sometimes third-string point guard.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:20 pm
Damn man, thanks for the updates an all but.............sh*t, this is bordering on =

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bigstrads wrote:Damn man, thanks for the updates an all but.............sh*t, this is bordering on =

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Hahah. Sorry, got laid off so I am using the internets to get updates between working on various projects and putting out resume's. Then I just post what I read here.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:55 pm
Not a bad pick up by the Pistons, adding Villanueva would be nice as well. Question what next ? Can they co-exist with Rip Hamilton and Prince ? I see more moves ahead for the pistons.


The Detroit Pistons have reached agreement with free-agent guard Ben Gordon(notes) on a five-year contract worth around $55 million, a source with knowledge of the talks told Yahoo! Sports Wednesday evening.

The Pistons are continuing to negotiate with forward Charlie Villanueva(notes) and are moving closer to an agreement.

July 8 is the first day free agents can officially sign contracts.

Gordon and Villanueva, who played together for a year at UConn, traveled to Detroit on Wednesday morning to meet with Detroit president Joe Dumars.

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Villanueva to Pistons, Z-Bo to Grizzlies, Ariza likely becoming a Free Agent:


Clearing the way for No. 1 pick Blake Griffin, the Clippers have agreed to trade power forward Zach Randolph to Memphis for former Clipper Quentin Richardson, The Times learned today. Because of salary-cap rules, the deal can't be completed until next week. LA Times

It also works for the Clippers' bottom line, and their salary cap. With Richardson under contract for only this season, the deal gets them out from under Randolph's contract, which has two seasons, worth $33.3 million left on it. -LA Times


Gordon, the third pick in the 2004 draft by the Chicago Bulls, agreed to a 5-year deal for at least $50 million. Villanueva, the seventh overall pick by Toronto in 2006 who has played all three of his NBA season with the Milwaukee Bucks, also agreed to a five-year deal. His contract is worth at least $35 million. -AP

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva, the source said, also has committed to the Pistons, though details were still being worked out. -CBS Sports


Trevor Ariza's agent emerged from a lengthy phone conversation with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak on Wednesday afternoon convinced that the team isn't as interested in re-signing his client as it claims to be.

"I had a long conversation with Mitch, and I don't think it's going anywhere," agent David Lee said. "I think I'm being optimistic when I say it's not going anywhere."

Lee said Kupchak did not make a contract offer, nor were salary parameters discussed in the ballpark of what he believes Ariza deserves. Ariza already has "several" firm offers from other teams, according to Lee, and will begin speaking with opposing coaches on Thursday.

Asked if he could envision Ariza accepting a deal from another team without speaking to the Lakers again, Lee said, "Yes, we have no choice. That's the position they've put us in."
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Nice thread Tarantism. you have been a great contributor to the forum since your arrival and it's great to have yet another great member.

Knicks are going too far with getting salary relief to sign Lebron and whoever else they are targetting. It would be a very hard smack to the face if they don't get Lebron or even any other of the star free agents next offseason, but it is a real possibility, as the team that currently has the player can offer tham more money per year and one exta year on the duration of the contract.

I think Turkoglu is worth 10 million, going by his performance the last two years. If Orlando can offer him that amount of money, they should do it or they really have gotten no better replacing him with Carter. Turkoglu should realise this and turn around and tell the Magic front office that he wants 10 million a year and would rather stay there, it would speed things up.

As for the chance of getting lebron next offseason in Oakland, on the Warriors; It is not too far fetched actually, because Oakland is a huge market and Lebron likes Curry very much apparently. Thing is creating the cap space to even try to get Lebron and that can only be done by either trading for Amare now and then letting him go next offseason or trading either Maggette or SJack now for an expirer or two,difficult to do, but maybe the Rockets still want to get talent and stay a contender and see getting Maggette and/or SJack as a way to do that. No cap space created, no chance of Lebron or any other star for that matter next offseason
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From what Chris Broussard said, Ariza was offended by the MLE offer the Lakers gave him. And if the Lakers want him back, they'll have to do it fast.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:20 pm
Tarantism wrote:Fernandez upset. Doesn't want Blazers to sign Turboglue:

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Portland's pursuit of a certain player from Turkey has infuriated the Trail Blazers' lone remaining Spanish player, Rudy Fernandez, to the point where he'd prefer to play in Greece, Russia or even Spain again, ESPN.com learned Tuesday.


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A league source told ESPN.com that Fernandez has already been courted informally by European powerhouses Olympiacos, Real Madrid, FC Barcelona and CSKA Moscow as word spread that the Blazers had become the apparent front-runners to land free agent Hedo Turkoglu.

Fernandez, who paid more than $500,000 of his own money to buy his way out of his contract with DKV Joventut, believes he can earn 5 million euros per season if he signs a three-year contract in Europe. He is due to make $1.1 million from the Blazers next season.

The problem for Fernandez from a leverage standpoint is that he is entering the second year of his NBA rookie contract, and the Blazers have the option to re-sign him for a third and/or fourth season. Fernandez would have to be released from his NBA contract in order to receive a letter of clearance from FIBA, the sport's international governing body, to play elsewhere.

The Blazers have been made aware of Fernandez's feelings, the source said. The source added that Fernandez has not formally requested a trade but has expressed his dissatisfaction with the way he was used by Portland coach Nate McMillan over the course of his rookie season. Fernandez averaged 26 minutes off the bench and scored 10.2 points per game, rarely handling the ball or acting as an offensive initiator -- two of Turkoglu's specialties.

If the Blazers were to sign Turkoglu, it could leave Fernandez in a reduced role -- backing up Brandon Roy at the two-guard spot and getting fewer minutes at small forward, where Fernandez and Travis Outlaw backed up Nicolas Batum last season.

Portland only recently severed its tied with its other Spanish player, dealing point guard Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento on draft night last Thursday after Rodriguez spent three years with the Blazers as the second- and sometimes third-string point guard.


Rudy is a good player, but always has been a nutjob. I think he's pissed because Sergio was traded, more than about the rumors regarding Turkoglu.


btw, whoever signs Turkoglu to a big contract (and it will happen) is gonna regret that move in a couple of years. He's already 30, his best years are after him (not totally, but he'll show his age soon) and I don't think he wasn't very impressive on the playoffs. He just was on TV more, but that's about it...


xbay wrote:From what Chris Broussard said, Ariza was offended by the MLE offer the Lakers gave him. And if the Lakers want him back, they'll have to do it fast.


It's not like he deserves more. He's a nice hustle player, decent defender, capable scorer (at times)... but seriously, the Lakers should focus on bringing Odom back. Ariza can be replaced much more easily.

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migya wrote:Nice thread Tarantism. you have been a great contributor to the forum since your arrival and it's great to have yet another great member.


Thanks man I really like it here. 8)

Artest on the way out?


HOUSTON - NBA sources told FOX 26 Sports Wednesday it is unlikely free agent forward Ron Artest will return to the Houston Rockets.

League sources told FOX 26 the Rockets would be willing to offer Artest a one-year contract at best. The sources said because of that the chances of Artest resigning with Houston are remote.

Artest's agent, David Bauman, who has not been available for comment, said Tuesday Artest's first preference is to return to the Rockets. However, if that was not possible, Artest wanted to play for a team that will compete for a championship.

Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has not been available for comment for this story.

The Rockets acquired Artest in a trade with Sacramento last July.

In his only season with Houston Artest averaged 17.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.3. assists, and 1.52 steals per game.


I wish we had some room under the cap. I really like Artest.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:55 am
Well this is how I see it with the whole situation.... with the news of Yao possibly not playing for another year and McGrady being shopped around, it seems the Rockets are bound to go no where. That's unfortunate, because they are a team that plays tough enough to beat ANY TEAM. I think Artest is on his way out, but the question is where? He's shown he can stay a good boy, well at least for a year.

Also, regarding Trevor Ariza... ESPN said he could possibly leave for Cleveland to play alongside LeBron since there were reports of the Cavs switching the King to PF and looking for a tall swingman... such as Ariza.
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Tarantism wrote:Artest on the way out?


HOUSTON - NBA sources told FOX 26 Sports Wednesday it is unlikely free agent forward Ron Artest will return to the Houston Rockets.

League sources told FOX 26 the Rockets would be willing to offer Artest a one-year contract at best. The sources said because of that the chances of Artest resigning with Houston are remote.

Artest's agent, David Bauman, who has not been available for comment, said Tuesday Artest's first preference is to return to the Rockets. However, if that was not possible, Artest wanted to play for a team that will compete for a championship.

Rockets general manager Daryl Morey has not been available for comment for this story.

The Rockets acquired Artest in a trade with Sacramento last July.

In his only season with Houston Artest averaged 17.1 points, 5.2 rebounds, 3.3. assists, and 1.52 steals per game.


I wish we had some room under the cap. I really like Artest.




If the Rockets don't keep artest, they've likely decided to rebuild. I expect TMac gone soon and maybe even some trades involving Battier, all for some youth and/or picks
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I've got the feeling that Denver will push really hard for Artest... And Houston might decide to go for a sign-and-trade with the Nuggets.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:12 pm
The Lakers definitely need to sign Odom before Ariza, as a player of Ariza's calibur can be replaced. However, wasn't the rumor that Kobe was gonna opt out of his contracts and renegotiate his contract to take LESS money so they could resign both players? Then he extends and takes a pay RAISE making it impossible now to sign both. If he really is all about championships these days he's got a pretty weird way of showing it.

And Ben Gordon signing with Detroit is definitely a slap in the face to Chicago. I know that he said that he wanted an extension with Chicago before last off season and when they made him the qualifying offer, he said he would definitely explore free agency. But did he have to sign with a division rival for $1 million more per year?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:37 pm
The Answer looking at Memphis, Rubio to play in Spain for the next two seasons:

Destination Memphis?: Iverson interested in Griz
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Several NBA sources have confirmed to me that controversial and wildly popular guard Allen Iverson - through representatives - has made the Grizzlies aware that he would like to play in Memphis.

The veteran, prolific scorer is a free agent for the first time in his professional career. While no deal is imminent and conversations have been only cursory, Griz brass are said to be internally weighing the pros and cons of possibly adding Iverson to the team's youth movement.

Iverson would certainly have to take a major pay cut from the $21 million he earned last season with Detroit. The Griz would only entertain Iverson with what they'd deem a reasonable price, and if the 34-year-old agreed to play off the bench.

But Iverson had a problem being a reserve with the playoff-bound Pistons and even said he'd prefer to retire before becoming a bench player. A somewhat mysterious back injury ended Iverson's season April 3.

The obvious risk is that Iverson would be far too disruptive WHEN he doesn't practice or receive the playing time or role he desires. Iverson, a 13-year veteran, has no apparent home or suitors so perhaps his tune has changed.

Who knows?

The Griz still need more scoring punch and a reliable ball-handler in the backcourt in the wake of their agreed upon trade for power forward Zach Randolph. Memphis will send swingman Quentin Richardson to the Los Angeles Clippers in that deal.

Iverson's scoring ability and mass appeal (he's always been a sellout draw in Memphis) are indisputable. He played in 57 games for the Pistons and averaged 17.4 points and 4.9 assists.

Nothing will play out on this any time soon. Still, the idea of adding Iverson comes with more questions than answers (pun intended).

Is 'The Answer' really what the Grizzlies need?


According to a report from El Periodico, Ricky Rubio has decided not to come over to the United States to play for the Minnesota Timberwolves and will remain with DKV Joventut for the next two seasons.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:03 pm
Hot off the wire: Ariza to Rockets.


Trevor Ariza has made a verbal commitment to sign with the Houston Rockets, according to sources close to the process. ESPN.com

A person familiar with the negotiations tells The Associated Press that the Houston Rockets have reached a multiyear deal with free agent Trevor Ariza. The person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because NBA rules prohibit announcing free-agent deals until next week, said the Rockets offered Ariza the full mid-level exception for the first year, about $5.6 million. AP
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