badabing8888 wrote:

bigstrads wrote:

badabing8888 wrote:

TMC wrote:

jimbob631 wrote:But LEbrons defense is average, compared to kobe its garbage. Kobe is the more complete of the two players.

But the award if for the most valuable, not the best player. Right now, Lebron means (a bit) more to the Cavs than Kobe to the Lakers.

Not sure I buy that.

Lakers are not a playoff team without Kobe. With him, they are the #2 seed in a LOADED western conference

Cleveland sits 4th in a weak Eastern Conference and their current record puts them 10th in the West.

Clevelend could POTENTIALLY still make the playoffs in the East without Lebron. The 8th seed in the East is 10 games under .500.

I know this is not quite an apples to apples comparison but you can not exclude Kobe's defense and what it means to his team. His defensive intensity is a key to that team and is a big part of why this team has a great record.

Heres a question then...............what would happen to each team respectively if you swapped players?

Cleveland - Kobe would basically do what he did with the Fakers 2-3 years ago, jack up everything, score 35+ PPG and Cleveland would miss the playoffs............like the Fakers did when he was playing like that.

Fakers - LeBron would gell into the triangle, have the whole thing run through him both in the post and outside and would make everyone around him better with getting better shots and distribution attitudes.

So............what does that mean?...........well, for me, LeBron is the more "valuable" player as he gets all his team mates involved and makes them better, more so than Kobe does.

Could not disagree with that more

sleandres wrote:LeBron does more with less, bottom line.

badabing8888 wrote:

TMC wrote:

jimbob631 wrote:But LEbrons defense is average, compared to kobe its garbage. Kobe is the more complete of the two players.

But the award if for the most valuable, not the best player. Right now, Lebron means (a bit) more to the Cavs than Kobe to the Lakers.

Not sure I buy that.

Lakers are not a playoff team without Kobe. With him, they are the #2 seed in a LOADED western conference

Cleveland sits 4th in a weak Eastern Conference and their current record puts them 10th in the West.

Clevelend could POTENTIALLY still make the playoffs in the East without Lebron. The 8th seed in the East is 10 games under .500.

I know this is not quite an apples to apples comparison but you can not exclude Kobe's defense and what it means to his team. His defensive intensity is a key to that team and is a big part of why this team has a great record.

bigstrads wrote:

sleandres wrote:LeBron does more with less, bottom line.

Indeed.

And Kobe does more with more and less with less...........if you know what I mean.