The Rockets? Oh Come on!

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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:29 am
Granted:
1) The Rockets 20 game win streak is one helluva accomplishmment.
2) The last 10 or so wins without Yao are a testament to their grittiness.
But let's take a look at the 20 victims:
Golden State -111-107, then:
Ind.-Mil.-Min.-Cle.-Atl.-Port.-Sac.-Cle.-Mia.-N.O.-Chi.-Wash.-Mem.-Den-Ind.-Dal.-N.O.-N.J.- and Atl.
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Does anyone see a pattern here?
Houston has benefited from one of the weakest 6 week schedules in recent NBA history.
Who was the first win? Us, I remember it well, just as we were about to establish a string of dominance, we let them off the hook. You could see it was a big win for them. Since last year, it was obvious they had never experienced anything quite like the Warriors. They were visibly shaken. When Yao is confounded, he has a hard time hiding it.

Of the 20 opponents, only 4 are from the current top 8 teams in the West. To their credit, they have beaten the Hornets twice. But have they faced the SPURS?, the LAKERS?, The SUNS?, the JAZZ? The CELTICS?, The PISTONS ?---- NOT ONCE!

But that is all about to change. After the Bobcats tomorrow. Starting Sunday with Lakers. Next week is as follows:
3/16--Lakers in Houston
3/18--Celtics at Houston
3/19--Hornets at New Orleans
3/21--Warriors at Golden State
3/22--Suns at Phoenix
Anyone want to make a guess on how many of those 5 games the Rockets will win. With everyone gunning at them, I'd say they'd be lucky to win 2!
Don't get me wrong, I think the Rockets are going to the playoffs. They have a relatively easy schedule in the final 3 and a half weeks, facing the Spus, Suns and Jazz.
If they actually take 4 of 5, my hats off to them.
But I think they are a bubble waiting to burst.
What do you think?
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:44 am
[quote="War Years"]
But that is all about to change. After the Bobcats tomorrow. Starting Sunday with Lakers. Next week is as follows:
3/16--Lakers in Houston
3/18--Celtics at Houston
3/19--Hornets at New Orleans
3/21--Warriors at Golden State
3/22--Suns at Phoenix
Anyone want to make a guess on how many of those 5 games the Rockets will win. With everyone gunning at them, I'd say they'd be lucky to win 2!
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Hopefully 0-5...

3/16--Lakers in Houston Houston L
3/18--Celtics at Houston Houston L
3/19--Hornets at New Orleans Houston W
3/21--Warriors at Golden State Houston L
3/22--Suns at Houston Houston L

I think they'll go 1-4
We'll see...
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:59 am
Should this be in the new NBA Forum?................ :mrgreen:
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:06 pm
moved topic.

You are seriously discounting a 20 game winning streak?????

Provided all 20 games came vs NBA teams, I dont have to look ANY further into it. They are only the 3rd team in NBA HISTORY to do this. It is remarkable no matter who they played.

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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:22 pm
Check my first 2 sentences. Helluva accomplishment. Even against poor opponents.
But time will tell, will it not?
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:27 pm
:dontknow: 20 wins are 20 wins. Their schedule might have been easier than before, but they've faced some tough teams in that stretch, and they've won the last few without Yao.
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:55 pm
War Years wrote:Check my first 2 sentences. Helluva accomplishment. Even against poor opponents.
But time will tell, will it not?


Yes, you gave them credit and then said "but ...."

I just dont think there should be a "but" in there

Like TMC said... 20 wins is 20 wins. I can guarantee you that other teams in the HISTORY of the league have had a stretch of beatable opponents like this and only 2 other teams have ever done this.... truly a remarkable feat that needs no analyzing.

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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:33 pm
I can guarantee you that other teams in the HISTORY of the league have had a stretch of beatable opponents like this and only 2 other teams have ever done this.... truly a remarkable feat that needs no analyzing.
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You're right.This year's Warriors would never win 20 in a row. Though I think last year's Warriors, if the regular season ended in May could have put together a win streak in the teens inf they had had such an easy schedule, after they started gelling as a team.
I think what makes great streaks like this are A) Vastly superior teams on a roll. or B) Teams that have somethiing to prove.
Remember the Trail Blazers winning what? 17 of 19! What are they doing now? I think now they should hope for a .500 season and a bright future. Last year the Warriors had something to prove after many years being an NBA joke.
What I find now about the Warriors is that they seem a little taken with themselves. They can't finish their opponents and tend to play down to them.Last night against the Raptors for example , blowing a 20 point lead, just to turn it on at the end when they needed to.That's a pretty good ego trip except when it gets down to 6 minutes in the next game where they blow a big lead.Is it really a sure thing? Will they rise back up when they have to?This idea that all the W's have to do is to stay close until the last 3 minutes is an illusion and they shouldn't indulge in it.
Part of the reason they can't finish as well is because they don't have a third gun like JR. But I don't regret, I think it was a good long term move. But even saying this, The Warriors could be a totally different team in the playoffs. But I don't think they will be.
If Yao had'nt gotten injured, I don't think we'd be talking about a 20 game streak. That gave the Rockets something to prove. The Rockets are one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, with a rather plodding offense.
But again, do I have any predictions on the 5 Rocket games starting with
LA on Sunday?
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» Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:54 pm
War Years wrote: Remember the Trail Blazers winning what? 17 of 19! What are they doing now? I think now they should hope for a .500 season and a bright future.


Well, I do blame the schedule for that one. They only had a couple of games on the road, and the Blazers are a much tougher team at home, and a team as young as theirs always has more trouble beating good rivals on the road.

Other than a win at Utah, they didn't get a single quality win on the road during that streak.

War Years wrote: What I find now about the Warriors is that they seem a little taken with themselves. They can't finish their opponents and tend to play down to them.


Watching the games, I thought the same... but the stats say we're one of the best of the NBA when it comes to close games. We're something like 8-1 or so in close games... Don't remember the exaxt stat, but I read it somewhere last week.

War Years wrote: If Yao had'nt gotten injured, I don't think we'd be talking about a 20 game streak. That gave the Rockets something to prove. The Rockets are one of the best defensive teams in the NBA, with a rather plodding offense.


Well, that's a good point... but, as someone else pointed in another thread, Yao was part of the first 12 wins. Guess we'll never know what could have happened with a healthy Yao for the remaining of the year.
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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:42 am
Excuses, excuses.

20 games is a quarter of the season. It's the baseball equivalent of going on a 40 game winning streak. Thats insane. Discount it if you want, but Houston's on a roll and I'm not trying to see them right now.

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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:45 pm
i would take 10 game streak for the dubs :mrgreen:
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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:38 pm
Twenty.........mutha f**king.............one..................jeez, these guys dont let up.
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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:49 pm
Warriors play them next week. I would love to see the streak snapped right then and there. :wink:
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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:01 pm
sfsfsfgiants wrote:Warriors play them next week. I would love to see the streak snapped right then and there. :wink:


That would be quite................thrilling to say the least.

I just cant believe that in this conference, how tight it is..............and they were 24-20, now they are 45-20, tied for the lead and playing the Lakers on Sunday...............have a feeling we wont have to break it.
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» Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:27 pm
man..i will say 1-4...if they have enough of LUCK...
not in W's game,NO,SUNS,Spurs..maybe Fakers but if Fakers beat them and they should be 0-5..

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