2016-17 season

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» Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:22 am
Thought I'd make a thread for general talk about this season.


So far the Warriors are the best but it is interesting how it looks like a four team race right now, with San Antonio, Clippers and Cavs also doing very well.

The best player seems so far to be either Westbrook or Harden but both are on relatively losing teams. So good to have the team the Warriors have right now.

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» Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:26 am
Ya Harden and Westbrook are filling scoring voids on their crappy teams. One of them will get mvp and probably no chance anybody on this warriors team will ever win another mvp with too many stars on here.
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» Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:32 am
It's about championships
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» Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:32 pm
After just one month it can be seen which are the best teams. Looks like Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Grizzlies and Rockets are above the rest and then the likes of OKC, Utah and Portland will go for the last playoff spots in the West. In the East Cavs and Raptors look like being 1 and 2 again. After that some seven teams are about 50% and some teams just below them so anything can happen.
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» Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:42 pm
It's looking very likely that Carmelo Anthony will be traded. Read small article that said Cleveland wants to get him but not trading any of their big three, with Love being the one the Knicks want. There is no way such a trade is feasible for New York, even with just Love for Carmelo, he is worth Love and Tristan Thompson I think. Likely he'll go West for someone like Cousins.

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» Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:00 am
LeBron James has had enough of Charles Barkley's criticisms
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebron-james-charles-barkley-feud/

CLEVELAND -- King James is through bowing down to Sir Charles, it seems.

After he was criticized by Charles Barkley for questioning Cleveland’s front office, LeBron James tore into the former NBA star and opinionated TV commentator on Monday night following a loss in Dallas. James not only countered what was said about him but he also attacked Barkley’s character for some off-the-court missteps.

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“I’m not going to let him disrespect my legacy like that,” James told ESPN after the Cavs lost 104-97 to Dallas, dropping the defending champions to 7-8 in January. “I’m not the one who threw somebody through a window. I never spit on a kid. I never had unpaid debt in Las Vegas. I never said, ‘I’m not a role model.’ I never showed up to All-Star Weekend on Sunday because I was in Vegas all weekend partying.

“All I’ve done for my entire career is represent the NBA the right way. Fourteen years, never got in trouble. Respected the game. Print that.”

Barkley has never been one to hold back his opinion on James or any other player, but the 11-time All-Star was particularly critical of James last week after Cleveland’s star complained about Cleveland’s roster being “top-heavy” and questioning whether the team’s front office was satisfied with one title.

Barkley said James was “whiny” and “inappropriate” and wondered about his motives. Barkley called James “the best player in the world” but wondered if he really wanted to compete. James initially dismissed Barkley, saying he was only trying to boost TV ratings. Barkley works as an in-studio host for TNT.

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However, James decided he couldn’t let those comments go and turned on Barkley, who never won an NBA title.

“He’s a hater. What makes what he says credible? Because he’s on TV?” James said. “I know he wanted to retire a long time ago, but he can’t. He’s stuck up on that stage every week.”

James also said if Barkley wants to continue any discussion, he knows where to find him.

“If this makes him want to talk to me, the schedule’s out there,” James said. “He knows every road arena I’ll be in. Don’t just come up to me at All-Star and shake my hand and smile.”

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» Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:07 am
migya wrote:It's looking very likely that Carmelo Anthony will be traded. Read small article that said Cleveland wants to get him but not trading any of their big three, with Love being the one the Knicks want. There is no way such a trade is feasible for New York, even with just Love for Carmelo, he is worth Love and Tristan Thompson I think. Likely he'll go West for someone like Cousins.


I agree I think carmelo is worth more than love at this point but not much more and theres not a chance I would trade cousins for melo.
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» Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:09 pm
Cousins has been traded to NO for not much in return. The pairing of Cousins and ADavis to me is one of the best big man duo, talent wise at least, in nba history. Either this will work well or it will be a disaster. NO could become one of the best teams in the nba with this trade and if they work it smart they could look to get a FA or trade for a very good SG and they'd be definate championship caliber.

Hard to believe that the Kings FO traded him within the same conference. Cousins is one of the most talented players in the nba and sending him as far away as possible could have been the best choice.

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» Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:21 pm
Cavs are expected sign Deron Williams and Bogut.

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» Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:30 am
Andrew Bogut fractures tibia less than a minute into Cavs debut
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18839787/andrew-bogut-exits-cleveland-cavaliers-debut-leg-injury

CLEVELAND -- Less than a minute into his Cleveland Cavaliers career, Andrew Bogut went down with a fractured left tibia Monday night.

The team said X-rays at the arena revealed the fracture and that Bogut was taken to the Cleveland Clinic for further evaluation.

"It's very deflating ... a tough moment," LeBron James said. "We all were excited about the acquisition and bringing him in here.

"We can hope for the best ... but it's a tough one not only for him, first of all, but for our ballclub."

James said he knew right away what had happened.

"As soon as the collision happened, I heard it break," he said. "And when I went over to him and he said [it was broken], I already knew it. I heard it crack.

"It took the air out of the whole building."

The injury occurred when Bogut was closing out on Miami Heat forward Okaro White and his left leg collided with White's left knee with 11:38 remaining in the second quarter. Bogut had played just 58 seconds.

He was helped to the locker room by Tristan Thompson and James Jones, and did not attempt to put any weight on the leg.

"When you bring a guy in, you don't expect that type of thing happening a minute after he checks into the game," said Cavaliers assistant coach Larry Drew, who filled in for the ill Tyronn Lue in Cleveland's 106-98 loss.

"It can certainly take a little bit out of your sail. But injuries are a part of it, and you have to play through it.

"All we can do is wish the best for him."

Drew said he did not have a chance to speak with Bogut before he left for the hospital for further evaluation.

Kyrie Irving said the Cavs still have enough to compete for a championship even without Bogut.

"[General manager] David Griffin has done an unbelievable job, and the pieces that we do have, I mean, this is probably the best group that I've played on since I've been here," Irving said. "And that's hands down. And talent all around. So I'm definitely still confident about it, and I always will be."
Andrew Bogut's injury occurred just 58 seconds after he entered Monday night's game. He did not attempt to put any weight on his left leg as he was helped to the locker room. Gregory Shamus/Getty Images

Earlier Monday, the focus was on what Bogut's addition could mean for a possible third installment of Cavaliers-Golden State Warriors in the NBA Finals come June.

The new Cavs center -- and former Warriors big man -- said his old team had nothing to do with his decision to join his current one.

"I mean, we'll play whoever's in front of us at this point," Bogut said before the Cavs played the Heat. "That's the mindset. Everyone's going to try to ramp up that story -- nice try -- it's one of those things. Happened to [Anderson] Varejao last season. That's the business of this league and pro sports. I don't hold any grudges and moved on and I'm in a good place, and we'll see how it goes."

Bogut signed with the Cavs last week after being courted by the likes of the Boston Celtics (whom Bogut identified as the runner-up), Houston Rockets and San Antonio Spurs once he reached a buyout agreement with the Philadelphia 76ers following his trade from the Dallas Mavericks.

He started this game of musical chairs with his career the summer after Golden State traded him to Dallas following four years of service and two trips to the Finals in order to clear the requisite cap space to sign Kevin Durant in free agency.

"You always say you want to get back at them, this that, this that," Bogut said of the Warriors. "You know, it's nothing to do with them. This decision was solely made on, you know -- I wasn't making this decision based on Golden State. I was making this decision based on what the best opportunity was. I'm a free agent at season's [end], and a chance to get another ring would be absolutely awesome."

What wasn't so awesome was the red tape Bogut had to contend with on Monday as he was held out of Cavs shootaround while he and the team tried to clear up an issue with transferring his work visa.

"Think it's just when you change jobs; my visa's based on a job," said Bogut, who is from Australia. "So if I'm working at U.S. Bank or McDonald's, that's what it says on my visa. So when you change teams, they have to bring on your visa rights, removing cities, immigration wants to know why you're moving cities, so you've got to be able to back that up with a contract from your company. I thought it was all done, but it was obviously the weekend. I came to the facility and they were like, 'You can't go right now, you have immigration issues.' So I called Vladimir Putin and got it done."

While Bogut made a joke about the state of international diplomacy, the Cavs played a joke on him for his first day with the team. The former No. 1 pick out of Utah has worn No. 6 for the majority of his 12-year career, but No. 6 is what James wore in Miami and what he often still wears on his practice jersey. So, Bogut's practice jersey was presented to him with the No. 6.5, as an ode to James. (Bogut will wear No. 6 on his game uniform, however.)

"LeBron got me already," Bogut said with a smile. "I wasn't aware that LeBron wears a No. 6 at practice, so they gave me a 6.5. I thought it was 65 at first. I didn't really pay any attention to it. It was early in the morning, I just got to Cleveland a couple days ago, so I'm still a bit weary. Someone mentioned the point. It was a good joke. I have to get him back."

Bogut, 32, who averaged 3 points and 8.3 rebounds per game for Dallas this season, said he dealt with "crap I caught on Twitter and the death threats and all that kind of stuff" for choosing the Cavs, but he sounded resolute in his choice nonetheless.

"It's the best opportunity to try to win a championship playing with one of the best -- if not the best -- players to play the game," Bogut said of James. "It was a tough decision, in a way, because of the history, but I can't control it. I got traded so I ended up having the luxury of having four or five teams recruit me, which is a nice thing to have. But at the end of the day, I thought Cleveland was the best chance."

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