I did. watching all the positives starting from summer camp, preseason and practice. to me they looked legit enough to fight for that last spot. monta ellis 2.0 is a thrill to watch.
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Yep, we had a favorable schedule (playing some rather sorry teams) and for most nights Ellis points and David Lee rebounding should put us over the top a water downed league. The Detroit loss was real disappointing, but like the Fakers, we get exposed by elite PGs (Curry is not the lock down defender or passer) so when his shots brick, wow he really, really hurts the team. Monta on a bad night still gets 20+ and shoots around 50%, and I feel he, Biedrins and BW don't get their fair share of shots. Interesting stat, Curry is 6.7 assists to 3.7 to Brandon Jennings 6.3 to 2.2 ratio. So we have three glaring holes (no true point guard, no low post presence ... with little commitment to give Beans or BW the shot attempts ... and el cheapo bench or products of trade dumps (Mags, Jackson)). This roster will never be elite, and we don't suck enough to get a franchise player so we will lose or die with Curry and his shooting. Besides the predictable Fakers massacre, our losses to Detroit (Stuckey) and Chicago (that Rose kid), Curry got abused. He did ok against Deron who was horrible with turnovers in Oakland. Essentially, if he doesn't outplay and outscore other PGs ... we will lose because his assist to turnover is awful and Biedrins and BW don't get shot attempts at the low post. Ironically, we have so to be former Warrior in BW instead of Noah the aggravator and undefeated Hornets CP3 running mate Beli. Let me finish my BW point (51% shooter but Vlad 28.2, Carney 40.9, Bell 23.5 and Reggie 44.1 get minutes and shots) ... I guess that is the residual effects of Nellie ball, and Gadz has been decent filling for Beans. For the future, we only got three real options for improvement (hope and pray our sorry bench shoots better .... hope for a good night from Curry night in and night out... or develop BW to a nice low post threat for his next team). An elite coach like Coach T, Sloane or Phillip gets mediocre players to play great in addition to wins and losses ... Smart season may rest on his ability or inability to get BW to play to his potential.
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- Curry's stats aren't elite PG-like but if you watch him play, he can run a team and dish the rock as well as anybody.
- BW needs to catch the ball and could use a little fire, but he's been serviceable this year in limited minutes. hopefully doesn't break a nail like every other year. - how bout that Beli in NewOrleans? starting spot for an undefeated team. glad he's getting his opportunity. if you look at the standings right now - all the teams that are outside of the top8 ... Nuggets, Grizzlies, Suns, Kings, Twolves, Rockets, Clippers only the suns and denver made the playoffs last year but they are a weaker team this year. Nuggets have an aging Billups and disgruntled Melo, Suns lost Amare and we can beat their starting 5. the Warriors can matchup with these teams talent-wise and they're extremely capable of beating them out for the 8th spot. |
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Last night exposed our bench in my opinion. We have a excellent starting 5, but they are young and will be turn over prone untill they get more experience, and start to get familiar with how to play with eachother well. It takes about one season for a team to start knowing the little details about eachother. It doesn't help when you have a team that is young and learning to cut it in the NBA. Curry is not an eliete point guard (yet), but he is a great point guard. His ability to run the pick and roll, and his ability to keep the defense honest because he can finish at the rim and he can shoot the ball, will make him an eliete point guard in the future.
Eliete point guards don't become eliete in one year, it takes time. Everyone questioned Rondo when he came in, and he had help from 3 all stars. It took him 2 years, if not more to get to where he is out now. IN his second year in the league, there were times when Derick Rose was almost none existent, he was injured, turned the ball over, and at times didn't have an impact on games. It takes some time to become eliete. It will probably take another year for Curry, as he is undersized and not as quick or athletic as other PGs. But he has the two most important skills for a PG, high basketball IQ, and he can shoot. Plus, he is getting stronger, he looks and is a lot stronger then he was last year. I am looking for year 3 to be the year he really shines. He will be more comfortable with his team, with the system, and also more used to how other teams are going to play. This year is really just a warm up for next year. We have a set starting 5, and really just need to establish a bench. We need a difference maker off the bench. Hopefully the CBA passes before there is a lock out, because i think we are growing into a good team and can become an eliete team... but it will take a couple of years. Need to extend Monta's and Bean's contracts if they can continue to play like this and also grow and get better. Making the playoffs would be nice this year so they can have that under their belt, also to give them a taste of playing on a big stage where every possesion counts, and hopefully become hungry to improve and do better next year. "Hard Work Beats Talent, When Talent Doesn't Work Hard"
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with lee out two weeks
Sat, Nov 13 @ Milwaukee Loss Mon, Nov 15 vs Detroit Win Fri, Nov 19 vs NY Knicks Win Sun, Nov 21 @ Los Angeles loss Mon, Nov 22 vs Denver loss Wed, Nov 24 @ Houston loss Fri, Nov 26 @ Memphis loss Sat, Nov 27 @ Minnesota maybe win Tue, Nov 30 vs San Antonio loss lee back and, wtf a schedule Thu, Dec 2 vs Phoenix win Sun, Dec 5 @ Oklahoma City loss Tue, Dec 7 @ Dallas loss Wed, Dec 8 @ San Antonio loss Fri, Dec 10 vs Miami 10:30 PM loss Mon, Dec 13 @ Utah loss from 6-3 by then we might be 10-14, not too nice drop and joy killing "i wish i was a little bit taller" skee lo
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Unfortunately, you may be right. The only positive is that, again, they will have a chance to play and show that they can contribute. I would have thrown in the towel earlier in Chicago and really worked the reserves hard, mentally and physically. B. Wright needs a sense of urgency for sure, Lin has to focus on being a worthy backup point guard and not just on making the team. And Adrien...if this guy has anything at all, time to show it. Rebounds and defense to start with. Unfortunately the team may lose games again this year because of injury, may really not be the team we envisioned until everyone is back. At that point, this may be a very good team indeed. And, we hear, Riley is not done. |
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Guys, don't forget that Curry was out for the Lakers game. Neither we can't be too negative about the following games - without Lee. If we lose that is. |
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Our bench is too thin, if we lose one of our big three we are toast. Need to trade our expirings for some depth at some point.
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i just saw an espn insider article on how we are not good as our record suggests, sadly, i am not an insider. if anyone is, could you paste it here?
(i'm eager for warrior stuff, for soon be leaving and month of morning recap readings only for me) "i wish i was a little bit taller" skee lo
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thanks, 8th ave, nothing insightfull, though. and he got some money for that, i could bet. "i wish i was a little bit taller" skee lo
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As far as ESPN, they are the same guys that picked the Yankees, Phillies, Rays and Rangers ahead of the Giants pitching ... they also locked the Heat to the finals .. sheesh. We had a favorable schedule, playing without our highest paid player (DLee) and key guard Curry and still won. Who cares how we win games ... which is a problem of Smart strategy more than ability (he purposely lets teams in the fourth benching Lee and Ellis until the final 6 minutes of the 4th quarter.) Its not Smart fault that we traded a bunch of servicable players (Mags, Jackson, Crawford) for the like of Gadz, Bell, Vlade, Acie Law but you can't win games with a big margin with Ellis sitting a good chunk of the fourth quarter. Like I mention a lot, when you got Vlade and his 30% shooting ahead of BW 51% in FG shooting ... you are set on getting no production from your bench because of the head coach whim. Curry is not and will never be an elite point guard (that is not his position), but for the price (rookie contract) and his production ... he can't be replaced because good luck getting a decent point guard on the open market. As a complete side note, Smart is coaching for a chance at a playoff spot and a contract ( he could care less about developing a key asset (BW) either as trade bait or as decent low post contributor) so he will focus on winning ugly over pretty wins or player development.
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you didnt always use parentheses
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holy ****... you have, but i've never noticed them....... jesus..........................
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Hey martin, the thing that i quoted earlier was from rumor central for espn insiders...
here's the full article
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