Whose fault will it be this year ?

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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:46 am
Last year, everything was quote " Nelson's fault ", even when it was actually Cohan's fault (or just bad luck).

(For example, people now talk about Nelson's fondness for playing his starters 48 minutes, when he only had six players total, and the bench was players like Hunter and George, and did you want them to play more minutes against the Cavaliers and Lakers ?)

Now that Nelson is gone, probably even more people will blame him for everything that goes wrong this year.

But supposing they eventually give up on citing Nelson, who will be the new scape goat responsible for all problems?
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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:39 pm
So you're already deeming this season a failure? Not worthy of a real response.

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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:58 pm
Beast Mode wrote:So you're already deeming this season a failure? Not worthy of a real response.


Who said "the season" ?

People will be blaming someone halfway through the first quarter of the first game...

Make that prior to the start of the game:

This hot dog is cold ! F*ing Nelson !
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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:14 pm
it's always Monta's fault :)
Rowell should get the axe to achieve the front office transformation trifecta. it will be Lacob's fault if his ways become Cohan-ish - aka entertainment over winning, never going into luxury tax, retaining dysfunctional figures in the FO, etc.

Cohan & Nellie were such key contributers to a wacky azz Warriors culture, that their removal can do nothing but good for this franchise and allow the W's to maybe, just maybe, become a normally run franchise? lol. ya know, one where every1 isn't backstabbing the other guy or the focus isn't solely on guys on rollerskates giving away pizzas, but actually winning. I have high hopes for this season and beyond because the direction of this franchise is tangibly changing for the better. so even if there is not immediate success, we know they're headed in the right direction. or at the very least, a better direction that Cohan was ever able to provide in the last 16 yrs.

I'm liking the new motion offense over isolation. I think the passing element of this team is underestimated. some of the best teams in the NBA also have sowe got some good passers with Curry on the perimeter and Lee in the post, and Beans is unselfish. we'll see if the Curry / Monta can be successful this season with some new pieces. the combo wasn't great last year, especially on D, so that's why Monta remains my scapegoat if they aren't winning :mrgreen: trading him for Iggy would be wicked sick.
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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:42 pm
I think Nellie got the too much of the Blame for the things that happened during his tenure here. He wasn't perfect, but In my opinion he was better then what we have had before.... that's not saying much, but he did bring many positives. There was a chart I saw somewhere where it showed the win total under nelson way back when, then inbetween then and his second stint, and his second tenure here. The win column was by far higher with him on the bench. And he did make the game exciting for us in our playoff run.

However I am happy he is gone now because even though I liked his coaching most of the time, the drama that surrounded him had to go. Anyways, since we are talking about the present here, I don't think we can decide who the weak link in this chain is this year until we the season unfolds. Many factors can go awry, but so far so good. Let's give them a fair shot before shooting them down.

We can still blame Nellie for the cold hot dogs though LOL!

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» Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:01 pm
Nellie, Cohan, Rowell, injuries, were all at fault, no doubting that at all. Look at how things have changed, the Beans fiasco is almost an after thought, if Nellie was here, there would still be drama about the matter.

Ill go into detail after I finish this home-work, but it is majority Nellie's fault, change was needed and it feels good.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:29 pm
If you read the comments on the blogs after one pre-season loss, the clear answer to the question is:

Keith Smart

But it is not for the loss, it is because Brandan Wright did not play.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:57 pm
It might boil down to blaming a player in one game, the coach in another...all the normal and expected stuff. Much better vibe for a team and coach and owner who are trying to win, trying to do the right things. This will be completely different from the past craziness and incompetence.

A loss will be "normal". Up against a better team, not shooting well, a bad bounce, officials...we can be like normal fans. I fear maybe a little less passion and excitement, even with more wins. We will see.

The team's success will be limited because the team needs a better quality big man than AB. And you really need a dominant superstar player to get very far in the playoffs.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:42 pm
Against big physical teams gee Utah, Houston, Fakers, Queens, if we can't drop shots, we will get our lunch handed to us every single night. Seriously, comparing Udoh to Cousins is like getting Dunleavy instead of Yao which had a lot of bad ping pongs karma. We overpaid for a undersized slashing PF, and went really really cheap on the entire roster. D_Wright is not a great players, Udoh will be a bust for the NBA (defensive specialist with a lottery pick) please, our backup point guard situation is pathetic (no Bobby Jackson, Skip to my Lou Alston, Aaron Brooks legit NBA talent but a nice PR guy in Lin. Curry is not a pure point guard (we could of had Jennings) and it may be pre-season but he made some bad bad passes. Seriously, look at the 2nd team for BW ... Reggie Wiliams gunner, Vlade .... gunner, Lin please, Miles, please and some players like Adrien we don't even know his name or pedigree. This is the same old squad (from Monty and Musselhead days) with no legit low post player (that would be BW) as the only possible option that will live and die with the outside shot. The correct answer would be live and die with BW (I don't need to see Vlade in the pre-season) and establish him as a legit low post player (probably for trade bait). If we are paying money to watch D=Wright jumper instead of plays for BW and Biedrins then we need a new point guard and a coach that can develop bigs (make plays for bigs) like Coach T (Phillip, probably Rambus). There is a coach in Orlando that can take big with no skills or post moves and give him lots of easy looks and dunks.
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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:50 pm
dareedle wrote:Against big physical teams gee Utah, Houston, Fakers, Queens, if we can't drop shots, we will get our lunch handed to us every single night. Seriously, comparing Udoh to Cousins is like getting Dunleavy instead of Yao which had a lot of bad ping pongs karma. We overpaid for a undersized slashing PF, and went really really cheap on the entire roster. D_Wright is not a great players, Udoh will be a bust for the NBA (defensive specialist with a lottery pick) please, our backup point guard situation is pathetic (no Bobby Jackson, Skip to my Lou Alston, Aaron Brooks legit NBA talent but a nice PR guy in Lin. Curry is not a pure point guard (we could of had Jennings) and it may be pre-season but he made some bad bad passes. Seriously, look at the 2nd team for BW ... Reggie Wiliams gunner, Vlade .... gunner, Lin please, Miles, please and some players like Adrien we don't even know his name or pedigree. This is the same old squad (from Monty and Musselhead days) with no legit low post player (that would be BW) as the only possible option that will live and die with the outside shot. The correct answer would be live and die with BW (I don't need to see Vlade in the pre-season) and establish him as a legit low post player (probably for trade bait). If we are paying money to watch D=Wright jumper instead of plays for BW and Biedrins then we need a new point guard and a coach that can develop bigs (make plays for bigs) like Coach T (Phillip, probably Rambus). There is a coach in Orlando that can take big with no skills or post moves and give him lots of easy looks and dunks.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:52 pm
From comments on last night's pre-season game on another site:

Hire a REAL basketball coach NOW, before the season starts, and fire that idiot dumbass wannabe copycat Nelly sucker coach you hired. FIRED!!!


And that was one of the nicer, more toned down comments (and I am being serious).

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:20 pm
yeah ken... i would assume Keith Smart and Ellis will get the blame.

BTW, I assume the warriors will lose a lot this season. Anything more is a bonus.
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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:56 pm
dareedle wrote:Against big physical teams gee Utah, Houston, Fakers, Queens, if we can't drop shots, we will get our lunch handed to us every single night. Seriously, comparing Udoh to Cousins is like getting Dunleavy instead of Yao which had a lot of bad ping pongs karma. We overpaid for a undersized slashing PF, and went really really cheap on the entire roster. D_Wright is not a great players, Udoh will be a bust for the NBA (defensive specialist with a lottery pick) please, our backup point guard situation is pathetic (no Bobby Jackson, Skip to my Lou Alston, Aaron Brooks legit NBA talent but a nice PR guy in Lin. Curry is not a pure point guard (we could of had Jennings) and it may be pre-season but he made some bad bad passes. Seriously, look at the 2nd team for BW ... Reggie Wiliams gunner, Vlade .... gunner, Lin please, Miles, please and some players like Adrien we don't even know his name or pedigree. This is the same old squad (from Monty and Musselhead days) with no legit low post player (that would be BW) as the only possible option that will live and die with the outside shot. The correct answer would be live and die with BW (I don't need to see Vlade in the pre-season) and establish him as a legit low post player (probably for trade bait). If we are paying money to watch D=Wright jumper instead of plays for BW and Biedrins then we need a new point guard and a coach that can develop bigs (make plays for bigs) like Coach T (Phillip, probably Rambus). There is a coach in Orlando that can take big with no skills or post moves and give him lots of easy looks and dunks.



CLIFF NOTES SON. LEARN EM. USE EM.

That paragraph looks like one of those pictures in a picture you see at the mall or at the fair ... can't even look at it without hurting my eyes.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:13 pm
It's Jed York's fault.

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» Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:35 pm
If we do suck it will be Cohan's fault.It's like George W bush,in that the damage he did could effect the future for quite some time.I do think this team is definitely taking a step forward,though.I'd be very happy with 40 wins.

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