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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:21 am
carlgo wrote:He probably is the best coach in the game in knowledge and ability, having presence and knowing pretty much everything.


Arrggghhh!!!................cant.................hold................back...............from..............ripping.............you...............
kool..............aid...............drinking...............Nelson..............jizm................swallowing.................blind..............ass
crazies!!!

Phew..............almost burst the vein that is pulsing over my forehead right now.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:39 am
auriflama wrote:
uptempo wrote:Nelson, himself, set in motion a team culture of selfishness when he had extorted more money out of the team (where he became one of the highest paid coaches in the league) after his first season coaching this team during the Nelson II era.

Nelson, undermined not only team morale; he also undermined Mullin, the man who brought Nelson to this team out of exile. Yes, Mullin had hired Nelson as a desperate move; however, Nelson, showed no loyalty to a former player who had given him another chance and a job to be on the sidelines.

While Nelson should get credit for pushing the organization to trade away Dunleavy and Murphy for Harrington and Jackson, as well as coaching the team into the second round of the playoffs in his first season, Nelson should also be held responsible for not emphasizing defense, rebounding, and protecting possessions as well as for not developing his big men (Randolph, Biedrens, Ronnie T).

Even with his own hand-picked GM, Riley, Nelson has yet to develop a lineup which isn't physically overmatched. How can anyone argue that Nelson's small ball lineups would be more effective than developing Randolph and Biedrens? Also, how can anyone argue that Harrington was being utilized properly while under Nelson's tutelage? Harrington would come into camp in amazing shape and eager to play on the block, and Nelson would force Harrington to stand around the three point arc while on offense. That makes no sense at all!

Nelson was also greatly responsible for the Stephen Jackson implosion. Jackson, perhaps the best defensive player on the Warrior roster while he was with the team, was put into the position where it was encouraged for him to jack up as many shots as he could put up as well as break down his individual opponent off the dribble in Nelson's half-court offense.

Under Nelson's tutelage, did Biedrens ever develop an offensive game?

Under Nelson's tutelage, did Randolph show any signs of improving?

Under Nelson's tutelage, did Ellis ever develop into a player who could run his defensive opponent off of screens so that he could get an open half-court shot (like a Rip Hamilton or a Ray Allen)?

I will say that the organization has to take responsibility for not making the playoffs over the past two years; however, a big part of that responsibility rests solely upon the shoulders of Nelson. He destroyed the franchise during his first tenure here, and he is greatly responsible for the mess that the franchise currently finds itself in.

The new ownership needs to get rid of this guy as soon as possible.


Go hijack another thread with this nelson hate-fest. your response has ZERO to with this topic. I think you read another thread and posted about that.


How is this "hijack(ing) of the thread with a 'nelson hate-fest?'

The topic is about who is culpable for the Warriors not making the playoffs these past two seasons.

Most on this topic believe that Nelson bears much of the responsibility for the predicament that this franchise is currently in.

He, Nelson, is not the sole reason why the team has been in the lottery; however, he has not done much to improve the situation.

I had listed a few questions in my posting. Would you care to answer them?

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:23 am
^^^^ nope you hijacked the thread with your own agenda
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:27 am
auriflama wrote:^^^^ nope you hijacked the thread with your own agenda


Seems more like you made this thread with your own agenda.

I think taking all evidence found thus far into account ... It's safe to say ... Auriflama, you're an idiot.
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:06 pm
auriflama wrote:^^^^ nope you hijacked the thread with your own agenda

No one "hijacked" you're thread... It was a response, and it was a good response I might add... This is a forum where we all interact, talk, complain, and/or give praise about Warrior ball. You have to understand that everyone gets disagreed with on this forum. Don't be such an emo about it.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:29 pm
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auriflama wrote:^^^^ nope you hijacked the thread with your own agenda


Seems more like you made this thread with your own agenda.

I think taking all evidence found thus far into account ... It's safe to say ... Auriflama, you're an idiot.


Nice way to twist up my words. Nice work obama lover. Of course you think someone is an idiot when your a moron.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:34 pm
Josh Jamison wrote:
auriflama wrote:^^^^ nope you hijacked the thread with your own agenda

No one "hijacked" you're thread... It was a response, and it was a good response I might add... This is a forum where we all interact, talk, complain, and/or give praise about Warrior ball. You have to understand that everyone gets disagreed with on this forum. Don't be such an emo about it.


stick to the topic at hand is all I ask. I started a thread just answer about the topic. dont ask 400 questions about other topics.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:39 pm
RobDIKUM wrote:Hmmmm Auriflama should probably be banned for being an idiot. Anyway, nobody said that the uptempo offense is the reason Nellie sucks ass, its the no defense, not giving a **** attitude he has had as well as his poor lineup decisions. He's old, and he's done... that's about it.


You seem upset becauseyou can cant have your way. I think you should be banned for instigating flame wars you arrogant lowlife.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:41 pm
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:43 pm
auriflama wrote:There is not an nba coach in the history of the game that could have got the warriors in the playoffs the last 2 years. Once the warriors didnt resign baron davis the warriors fell off harder than obama's popularity the last 6 months. Why the constant insults and trash talk vs nelson is uncalled for. The warriors had awful teams, If you bring in one of these defensive minded clone coaches there is no difference and the games are drop dead boring like the rest of the league minus a few teams. So stop all the negative threads and posts about nelson. respect tha gawd


this is the topic
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:44 pm
auriflama wrote:
RobDIKUM wrote:Hmmmm Auriflama should probably be banned for being an idiot. Anyway, nobody said that the uptempo offense is the reason Nellie sucks ass, its the no defense, not giving a **** attitude he has had as well as his poor lineup decisions. He's old, and he's done... that's about it.


You seem upset becauseyou can cant have your way. I think you should be banned for instigating flame wars you arrogant lowlife.



::lol: ::lol: ::lol: I'm not upset at all. This is a message board, that's it. You seem to have reading comprehension issues you degenerate, illiterate lowlife. No flame wars started on my part, but nobody said slowing the game down to a halt and being a pure defensive ugly team would get us to the playoffs. You seem to think Nellie did an ok job, thats ok, that's your opinion. The proof is out there on the floor and in the current (Soon to be former) warriors management. He put himself before the team and it all crumbled, then quit on the team he had on the floor.

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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:49 pm
RobDIKUM wrote:
auriflama wrote:
RobDIKUM wrote:Hmmmm Auriflama should probably be banned for being an idiot. Anyway, nobody said that the uptempo offense is the reason Nellie sucks ass, its the no defense, not giving a **** attitude he has had as well as his poor lineup decisions. He's old, and he's done... that's about it.


You seem upset becauseyou can cant have your way. I think you should be banned for instigating flame wars you arrogant lowlife.



::lol: ::lol: ::lol: I'm not upset at all. This is a message board, that's it. You seem to have reading comprehension issues you degenerate, illiterate lowlife. No flame wars started on my part, but nobody said slowing the game down to a halt and being a pure defensive ugly team would get us to the playoffs. You seem to think Nellie did an ok job, thats ok, that's your opinion. The proof is out there on the floor and in the current (Soon to be former) warriors management. He put himself before the team and it all crumbled, then quit on the team he had on the floor.


That is exactly why many of us on this board want do not want to see Nelson coaching this team.
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:53 pm
please lock this thread, it's getting ridiculous
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:56 pm
Yeah, this thread is going downhill. A few things about Warriors basketball, but mainly silly insults. Time to lock it.
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» Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:01 pm
I take it back... I will re-open this thread. But please get it back on topic. Debate, argue about Nelson. Another insult, any name calling... it will be locked.

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