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Are You Willing To Watch A Slow Down/Defensive Team In Order To Win?

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No
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:30 pm
Negativity haha, and that word is said as if there is no reason to be negative.

Negative facts that make loyal fans cringe, the small ball line-up of Monta-Curry-Watson-Morrow-Maggs

Lets take a quick walk through memory lane- Celtics game AR comes in the game, gets a block, scores a couple of baskets propells a run by stealing the ball away from Perkins and slams it down on a fast break. TV timeout, game starts and some how AR is on the bench. And the recent Laker game those that saw it know what am talking about same issue. Big mistakes and cause for Negativity.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:32 pm
exactly! Remain positive about a negative situation and nothing will ever fkn change

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:46 pm
Quazza wrote:exactly! Remain positive about a negative situation and nothing will ever fkn change


Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:12 am
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Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

The true fan is the guy who gives Nellie the benefiet of the doubt knowing he got us to the playoffs in his first season, almost makes it in 2008 and knows the 2008-2010 campaigns have been marred by signifigant starting lineup injuries.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:27 am
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:
warriorsstepup wrote:
Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

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your point?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:04 am
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:
warriorsstepup wrote:
Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

The true fan is the guy who gives Nellie the benefiet of the doubt knowing he got us to the playoffs in his first season, almost makes it in 2008 and knows the 2008-2010 campaigns have been marred by signifigant starting lineup injuries.


By the way am not questioning anybodies fan hood, anger/passion/realization are looked through certain perspective of fans. While your realize that injury played a major role in loses many will also agree, but its more than that for others. Coaching is a verb, and many fans realize that at certain times during this and last season Nellie gave up/ or mis-coached his team.

With that said standards should always be kept high, just because by a miracle the warriors made the playoffs after a long drought does not mean the coach should get a free pass to perform below mediocrety. Standards should always be kept high, we should always hope for the best and not settle for anything else, year after year.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:11 am
Quazza wrote:
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:
warriorsstepup wrote:
Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

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*raises hand*

your point?


I have been a fan since they were called San Francisco Warriors, so I guess that would make me Super True Fan.

Real fans don't give up on their team, it is good to see there are some real fans on this website. Not many, but a few who don't only come out to celebrate in the play offs.
There are almost 20000 of us true fans that come to each game, and it aint because we like to tour beautiful Oakland on BART.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:15 am
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:
warriorsstepup wrote:
Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

The true fan is the guy who gives Nellie the benefiet of the doubt knowing he got us to the playoffs in his first season, almost makes it in 2008 and knows the 2008-2010 campaigns have been marred by signifigant starting lineup injuries.



I've been a fan for some 20 years now and I ain't happy one bit with the direction this team is going YET AGAIN. I REMEMBER how Nelson was the last couple of years he was here his first time around and I use that knowledge to conclude that that might well happen again
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:17 am
Sorry guys. I wasn't implying that length of time supporting team is a measurement of your fanship <allthough> i do hate fairweathered band wagoners. I guess it was in relation to warriorsstepup implying that the passion shown of negativity is good to show true fanship <think that's what i was saying> i'm just not ready to cut ties with Nelson <front office diff story> cause i remember how bad it was. N know the front office ain't gonna provide someone better than Nelson.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:25 am
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:All i know is Don Nelson is one ALLSTAR PF or C away from being TITLE CONTENDERSHIP!


Correction...

Don Nelson is one owner, GM, and all-star PF or C from being a playoff contender.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:54 am
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PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:All i know is Don Nelson is one ALLSTAR PF or C away from being TITLE CONTENDERSHIP!


Correction...

Don Nelson is one owner, GM, and all-star PF or C from being a playoff contender.




Correction...

Don Nelson is an old fart, a manipulative jerk and needs to go
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:59 am
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:
warriorsstepup wrote:
Sounds philosophical, and those few words somes it all up. Anger/passion/and realization, a true warrior fan.


A true fan is the guy who's been here the previous 12 years before Nellies arrival back here.

The true fan is the guy who gives Nellie the benefiet of the doubt knowing he got us to the playoffs in his first season, almost makes it in 2008 and knows the 2008-2010 campaigns have been marred by signifigant starting lineup injuries.


A true fan also has seen so much basketball that he's able to realize when someone has done everything he could for this game and should step aside.

Look, I've been a fan of Don Nelson for years (better yet, for decades), and I'm still hoping he beats Lenny Wilkens win record, but that's about it. He's past his time and is more detrimental to the team than anything...


You've got a thing with old guys, Pawno. Al Davis, Don Nelson... sorry, mate, but there's a need for a change as well, as the old ways can't work forever.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:23 am
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You've got a thing with old guys, Pawno. Al Davis, Don Nelson... sorry, mate, but there's a need for a change as well, as the old ways can't work forever.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:31 am
People are confusing "small ball" with "fast ball". The key to winning is the "fast" part. Nelson, a flawed and destructive personality, simply tries to go too small and the team grinds to a halt because they get no rebounds and give up a ton of easy baskets on defense.

The Spurs are successful because of what?:

A. Their coach is a control freak, slow-down sort of guy, and that is the "correct way to play" (Dunleavy quote).
B. Their players are better and would win under any system.

The answer has been B.

Fast ball gives the team the best chance to win in the real world of not getting HOF big guys. The reason it has not been more successful here is that Nelson confuses "small" with "fast" and thinks magical thoughts about how the team can be fast without actually getting possession of the ball except on in-bounds after the other team scores after three successive offensive rebounds....

As I say all the time, Nelson is a great coach who coaches poorly, many people thinking that he actually sabotages the team for whatever dark Nellie reasons. No, "small ball" is a failure, but "fast ball" is both entertaining and successful.

I believe this roster could play fast and effectively with the simple addition of another mobile rebounder/defender and a rational coach who concentrates on good lineups, player development, decent defense and an actual offensive structure for those inevitable half-court episodes.

Fast ball is the answer and there wouldn't be the kind of complaints about the team if it actually played that style.

Personally, I hate sumo-ball and won't watch it. I will watch male porn before I tune into big guys grinding it out (don't get excited) while the coach runs up and down the court screaming out every offensive and defensive set.

Watch college ball now, if you can. Horrid. It is simply which team gets the more favorable charging calls and shoots the best from the outside.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:12 pm
Quazza wrote:
PAWNO6124FF171 wrote:Nellie Ball gives us the best chance to win.

It's good that you mention the Spurs BIGS, because what you failed to ignore was the fact that Greg Poppavich has arguebly the best Power Forward ever on his roster and Poppavich also earned his stripes under Don Nelson.

You give the Warriors a True Post Presence.. I'm sure Don Nelson would go down to the block with him (he did with Dirk in Dallas)


lol like he did with Ewing?


Totally agreement with PAWNO!!!

Nellie did everything he could to get the Nicks to trade Ewing. Nellie wanted the Nicks to clear room for the soon to be free agent Shaq. Do you suppose Nellie was planning on having Shaq play like Dirk?

Way too much Nellie hate here. This is his fourth season since he has been back. The first season we made the playoffs after being out of them for 13 freakin years!!!

Nellie's second season back we went 48 and 34 in what was the strongest division, in the strongest conference, I've ever seen since I started watching the NBA. And he did it with a small team of misfits!

Yeah 2008-2009 sucked, but look how beat up we were. The same with this season. How is any coach supposed to do well with half a team?

As far as trade decisions and so forth, what do you expect to happen? Maybe we could trade some of our amazing talent for Kobe and Duncan :roll:

Nellie can coach, and he does a good job of dicovering talent and doing well with lesser talent. The Warriors are in a shitty spot right now, but I don't think it's Nellie's fault. Blame Cohan if you want but the biggest thing to blame is crappy luck. The Warriors have a ton of it.

btw I still think we can and should try to trade for Paul and Amare. Their games are perfect for Nellie's system. BUT as many on these forums have pointed out, getting those two players is a big time long shot.

Nellie needs a true scoring PG. Nellie needs a true scoring big-man that can run. Nellie needs great players. Every team that wants to win a championship needs great players. We don't have any. We have some good players that don't quite fit Nellie's system.

When Nellie finally does show up to a game with no pants on, I'll be knocking back my St. Ides, or whatever I'm drinking at the time, in his honor.
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