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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:56 am
Some whore didn't clean her snatch before going on the job last week...... FUK YOU MULLIN!


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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:15 am
uptempo wrote:Yes, it is uncomfortable to honestly critique a Bay Area icon like Chris Mullin; hence, the sophomoric jokes.

It is difficult to use brutal honesty and detachment when judging a former NBA All Star who is learning-while-on-the-job with his former team; yet, Mullin should be treated no differently than any other executive. He should be judged on his merits.

Mullin's record speaks for itself: one playoff appearance in four seasons.


Not bad considering the previous 9 season before him the team had NO playoff apperances.

Of course Mully has his faults, of course hes made mistakes.............Im just not going to stand for someone saying that THIS offseason is a disaster and that he hasnt done very well.............because he has.

Ohh and I thought the jokes were Senior level atleast! :roll:

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:34 am
bigstrads wrote:
uptempo wrote:Yes, it is uncomfortable to honestly critique a Bay Area icon like Chris Mullin; hence, the sophomoric jokes.

It is difficult to use brutal honesty and detachment when judging a former NBA All Star who is learning-while-on-the-job with his former team; yet, Mullin should be treated no differently than any other executive. He should be judged on his merits.

Mullin's record speaks for itself: one playoff appearance in four seasons.


Not bad considering the previous 9 season before him the team had NO playoff apperances.

Of course Mully has his faults, of course hes made mistakes.............Im just not going to stand for someone saying that THIS offseason is a disaster and that he hasnt done very well.............because he has.

Ohh and I thought the jokes were Senior level atleast! :roll:


It is not fair to judge Mullin by just this off season. He should be judged on the merits of his four year record.

We all want to see Mullin and the Warriors succeed; however, the record is not good.

Keep the jokes coming. They are funny!
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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:05 am
uptempo wrote:
bigstrads wrote:
uptempo wrote:Yes, it is uncomfortable to honestly critique a Bay Area icon like Chris Mullin; hence, the sophomoric jokes.

It is difficult to use brutal honesty and detachment when judging a former NBA All Star who is learning-while-on-the-job with his former team; yet, Mullin should be treated no differently than any other executive. He should be judged on his merits.

Mullin's record speaks for itself: one playoff appearance in four seasons.


Not bad considering the previous 9 season before him the team had NO playoff apperances.

Of course Mully has his faults, of course hes made mistakes.............Im just not going to stand for someone saying that THIS offseason is a disaster and that he hasnt done very well.............because he has.

Ohh and I thought the jokes were Senior level atleast! :roll:


It is not fair to judge Mullin by just this off season. He should be judged on the merits of his four year record.

We all want to see Mullin and the Warriors succeed; however, the record is not good.

Keep the jokes coming. They are funny!


The jokes were only out of boredom and contempt for this thread..........as its been discussed about 57 times.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:57 am
Also, consider if the coach has made the best use, or any use in some cases, of the talent Mullin assembled. It seems to me that his coach screwed him over in some important ways.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:22 am
uptempo wrote:
bigstrads wrote:
uptempo wrote:Yes, it is uncomfortable to honestly critique a Bay Area icon like Chris Mullin; hence, the sophomoric jokes.

It is difficult to use brutal honesty and detachment when judging a former NBA All Star who is learning-while-on-the-job with his former team; yet, Mullin should be treated no differently than any other executive. He should be judged on his merits.

Mullin's record speaks for itself: one playoff appearance in four seasons.


Not bad considering the previous 9 season before him the team had NO playoff apperances.

Of course Mully has his faults, of course hes made mistakes.............Im just not going to stand for someone saying that THIS offseason is a disaster and that he hasnt done very well.............because he has.

Ohh and I thought the jokes were Senior level atleast! :roll:


It is not fair to judge Mullin by just this off season. He should be judged on the merits of his four year record.

We all want to see Mullin and the Warriors succeed; however, the record is not good.

Keep the jokes coming. They are funny!


Record for the Warriors since Mullin has taken charge:
2004-2005: 34-48
2005-2006: 34-48
2006-2007: 42-40
2007-2008: 48-34
Total: 158 - 170
Win%: .482

When Mullin inherited the team in 2004, this was his roster:
1 Troy Murphy F 6-11 245 AGE:28
2 Mickael Pietrus F 6-6 215 AGE: 26
3 Cliff Robinson F 6-10 240 AGE: 41
4 Derek Fisher G 6-1 200 AGE: 34
5 Baron Davis G 6-3 223 AGE: 26
10 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 AGE: 30
11 Zarko Cabarkapa F 6-11 225 AGE: 23
15 Andris Biedrins F 6-11 240 AGE: 18
20 Nikoloz Tskitishvili F 7-0 225 AGE: 21
23 Jason Richardson G 6-6 225 AGE: 23
31 Adonal Foyle C 6-10 270 AGE: 29
34 Mike Dunleavy G 6-9 230 AGE: 24
40 Calbert Cheaney F 6-7 217 AGE: 33

(more or less)
If you look at this team, you'd be surprised at how the ages are all f*cked up. There was no identity to this team. They had stars yes, in J-Rich and BD, but who else? There were no other producers on that team. Everyone was aging, past their prime, not living up to expectations, injured, or just plain weak.

Now compare that to the current roster:
7 Kelenna Azubuike G-F 6-5 220 12/16/1983 Kentucky 2
18 Marco Belinelli G 6-5 192 03/25/1986 Italy 1
15 Andris Biedrins C 6-11 230 04/02/1986 Latvia 4
44 Austin Croshere (FA) F 6-10 235 05/01/1975 Providence 11
8 Monta Ellis G 6-3 177 10/26/1985 Lanier HS (Jackson, MS) 3
3 Al Harrington F-C 6-9 250 02/17/1980 St. Patrick's HS (NJ)10
35 Richard Hendrix F 6-9 255 11/15/1986 Alabama R
1 Stephen Jackson F 6-8 218 04/05/1978 Oak Hill (VA) 8
50 Corey Maggette F 6-6 225 11/12/1979 Duke 9
25 Anthony Morrow G 6-5 210 09/27/1985 Georgia Tech R
19 Kosta Perovic C 7-2 240 02/19/1985 Serbia 1
4 Anthony Randolph F 6-10 205 07/15/1989 Louisiana State R
21 Ronny Turiaf F-C 6-10 250 01/13/1983 Gonzaga 3
23 C.J. Watson G 6-2 180 04/17/1984 Tennessee 1
5 Marcus Williams G 6-3 205 12/03/1985 Connecticut 2
32 Brandan Wright F 6-9 205 10/05/1987 North Carolina 1

We have gotten rid of all of our 30+ year olds and not only have 3 Vets, who have proven themselves to be good role players and role models for our very young squad.
First, we have Buike. A 2 year swingman that has proven himself in that he can play D and be an offensive weapon. A Corey Maggette in the making.
Next, Bellinelli. He shined in SL last year and has again showed his potential this year. He is still new to the league, but does have a few years on him. But at the rate that he is developing, he can be a fixture on our roster soon as instant offense.
Now Beidrins. He is a 4 year (vet some may say) at only 22 years old. Has lead the league in FG%, is a terrific rebounder with around 10/game. And now we have him for less than $10 mil a year!
We have Monta. Nuff said.
Al Harrington. Solid player. Can make shots. Good role player.
Hendrix. Unproven, but shows great promise and has the ability to be our inside force that we've so desperately needed. As long as he develops consistently, he will be a great bruiser.
Stephen Jackson. He is the heart of our team. He has the passion and drive to show our young guys how to toughen up. He is our X-Factor and as long as he keeps it up, especially with the loss of BD, he will be our best defender of the 2’s and 3’s.
Then there’s the new edition of Corey Maggette. Yes we are paying heavily for him, but he consistently scores 20+ PPG. He has guns like no other and is a great fitness role model for our out of shape, skinny young ones.
Anthony Morrow has shown that he can be a potent scorer while shooting an insanely high % during SL. He is another offensive weapon in that if he can make 8+ PPG on limited shooting, he can be a spark off the bench.
AR. Look through the forums about this guy, he’s gonna be a star. Hopefully in a few years he will be running the team alongside Monta.
Then we have Turiaf. Bruiser to say the least, but more importantly has heart and intensity. At 25 he is a strong big man who leaves everything on the floor for his team.
Watson is a good player. He needs to be consistent but is a decent backup PG until Marcus Williams steps up.
Williams was highly praised as the best PG in his draft class. May have busted or could just be a slow starter. We’re taking a chance, and it has a low risk/high reward.
Lastly, there’s Brandan Wright who is developing nicely and will not get even more playing time to up his stats. He’s a rebounder and scorer and is fast for someone his size. As long as he bulks up and begins to work his inside game, he is our future starting PF.

Only 3 of our guys are over 25. Of our guys that are young, 2 of them are our central players. We have a few up and coming pieces in Buike, Turiaf, Wright, and Bellinelli. And then the rest are players that need to really develop, our rookies and Williams. The best thing about this team? We can run every single team in the NBA off the floor. Our quickness, and conditioning is top notch and will allow us to score quick and in large amounts.

Now compare this team to what Mullin had started with. Who the hell were the Warriors before? What was their plan? Where were they going to be in 2 years with the current roster? Who was their leader? Their future?

Now tell me where Mullin failed.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:33 am
carlgo wrote:Also, consider if the coach has made the best use, or any use in some cases, of the talent Mullin assembled. It seems to me that his coach screwed him over in some important ways.


I agree with you 100%.
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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 pm
Can we all just agree that this thread was an epic fail?

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:14 pm
Thunder wrote:Can we all just agree that this thread was an epic fail?


Yea, especially when the poster doesn't even try to defend his position.
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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:45 pm
Haha, DAAAAMN.

And here I am, trying to get a piece of this action, smashing apart these lies about Chris Mullin... and MC99 goes and hits a walk-off home run. There aren't even any sloppy seconds after that knock-out. Kudos, my friend. Way to hold down the fort.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:14 pm
32 wrote:Haha, DAAAAMN.

And here I am, trying to get a piece of this action, smashing apart these lies about Chris Mullin... and MC99 goes and hits a walk-off home run. There aren't even any sloppy seconds after that knock-out. Kudos, my friend. Way to hold down the fort.

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Thank you much sir.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:27 pm
The Coooach wrote:
carlgo wrote:Also, consider if the coach has made the best use, or any use in some cases, of the talent Mullin assembled. It seems to me that his coach screwed him over in some important ways.


I agree with you 100%.


Mullin had hired Nelson. Ultimately, Nelson is Mullin's responsibility.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:33 pm
MC99 wrote:
uptempo wrote:
bigstrads wrote:
uptempo wrote:Yes, it is uncomfortable to honestly critique a Bay Area icon like Chris Mullin; hence, the sophomoric jokes.

It is difficult to use brutal honesty and detachment when judging a former NBA All Star who is learning-while-on-the-job with his former team; yet, Mullin should be treated no differently than any other executive. He should be judged on his merits.

Mullin's record speaks for itself: one playoff appearance in four seasons.


Not bad considering the previous 9 season before him the team had NO playoff apperances.

Of course Mully has his faults, of course hes made mistakes.............Im just not going to stand for someone saying that THIS offseason is a disaster and that he hasnt done very well.............because he has.

Ohh and I thought the jokes were Senior level atleast! :roll:


It is not fair to judge Mullin by just this off season. He should be judged on the merits of his four year record.

We all want to see Mullin and the Warriors succeed; however, the record is not good.

Keep the jokes coming. They are funny!


Record for the Warriors since Mullin has taken charge:
2004-2005: 34-48
2005-2006: 34-48
2006-2007: 42-40
2007-2008: 48-34
Total: 158 - 170
Win%: .482

When Mullin inherited the team in 2004, this was his roster:
1 Troy Murphy F 6-11 245 AGE:28
2 Mickael Pietrus F 6-6 215 AGE: 26
3 Cliff Robinson F 6-10 240 AGE: 41
4 Derek Fisher G 6-1 200 AGE: 34
5 Baron Davis G 6-3 223 AGE: 26
10 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 AGE: 30
11 Zarko Cabarkapa F 6-11 225 AGE: 23
15 Andris Biedrins F 6-11 240 AGE: 18
20 Nikoloz Tskitishvili F 7-0 225 AGE: 21
23 Jason Richardson G 6-6 225 AGE: 23
31 Adonal Foyle C 6-10 270 AGE: 29
34 Mike Dunleavy G 6-9 230 AGE: 24
40 Calbert Cheaney F 6-7 217 AGE: 33

(more or less)
If you look at this team, you'd be surprised at how the ages are all f*cked up. There was no identity to this team. They had stars yes, in J-Rich and BD, but who else? There were no other producers on that team. Everyone was aging, past their prime, not living up to expectations, injured, or just plain weak.

Now compare that to the current roster:
7 Kelenna Azubuike G-F 6-5 220 12/16/1983 Kentucky 2
18 Marco Belinelli G 6-5 192 03/25/1986 Italy 1
15 Andris Biedrins C 6-11 230 04/02/1986 Latvia 4
44 Austin Croshere (FA) F 6-10 235 05/01/1975 Providence 11
8 Monta Ellis G 6-3 177 10/26/1985 Lanier HS (Jackson, MS) 3
3 Al Harrington F-C 6-9 250 02/17/1980 St. Patrick's HS (NJ)10
35 Richard Hendrix F 6-9 255 11/15/1986 Alabama R
1 Stephen Jackson F 6-8 218 04/05/1978 Oak Hill (VA) 8
50 Corey Maggette F 6-6 225 11/12/1979 Duke 9
25 Anthony Morrow G 6-5 210 09/27/1985 Georgia Tech R
19 Kosta Perovic C 7-2 240 02/19/1985 Serbia 1
4 Anthony Randolph F 6-10 205 07/15/1989 Louisiana State R
21 Ronny Turiaf F-C 6-10 250 01/13/1983 Gonzaga 3
23 C.J. Watson G 6-2 180 04/17/1984 Tennessee 1
5 Marcus Williams G 6-3 205 12/03/1985 Connecticut 2
32 Brandan Wright F 6-9 205 10/05/1987 North Carolina 1

We have gotten rid of all of our 30+ year olds and not only have 3 Vets, who have proven themselves to be good role players and role models for our very young squad.
First, we have Buike. A 2 year swingman that has proven himself in that he can play D and be an offensive weapon. A Corey Maggette in the making.
Next, Bellinelli. He shined in SL last year and has again showed his potential this year. He is still new to the league, but does have a few years on him. But at the rate that he is developing, he can be a fixture on our roster soon as instant offense.
Now Beidrins. He is a 4 year (vet some may say) at only 22 years old. Has lead the league in FG%, is a terrific rebounder with around 10/game. And now we have him for less than $10 mil a year!
We have Monta. Nuff said.
Al Harrington. Solid player. Can make shots. Good role player.
Hendrix. Unproven, but shows great promise and has the ability to be our inside force that we've so desperately needed. As long as he develops consistently, he will be a great bruiser.
Stephen Jackson. He is the heart of our team. He has the passion and drive to show our young guys how to toughen up. He is our X-Factor and as long as he keeps it up, especially with the loss of BD, he will be our best defender of the 2’s and 3’s.
Then there’s the new edition of Corey Maggette. Yes we are paying heavily for him, but he consistently scores 20+ PPG. He has guns like no other and is a great fitness role model for our out of shape, skinny young ones.
Anthony Morrow has shown that he can be a potent scorer while shooting an insanely high % during SL. He is another offensive weapon in that if he can make 8+ PPG on limited shooting, he can be a spark off the bench.
AR. Look through the forums about this guy, he’s gonna be a star. Hopefully in a few years he will be running the team alongside Monta.
Then we have Turiaf. Bruiser to say the least, but more importantly has heart and intensity. At 25 he is a strong big man who leaves everything on the floor for his team.
Watson is a good player. He needs to be consistent but is a decent backup PG until Marcus Williams steps up.
Williams was highly praised as the best PG in his draft class. May have busted or could just be a slow starter. We’re taking a chance, and it has a low risk/high reward.
Lastly, there’s Brandan Wright who is developing nicely and will not get even more playing time to up his stats. He’s a rebounder and scorer and is fast for someone his size. As long as he bulks up and begins to work his inside game, he is our future starting PF.

Only 3 of our guys are over 25. Of our guys that are young, 2 of them are our central players. We have a few up and coming pieces in Buike, Turiaf, Wright, and Bellinelli. And then the rest are players that need to really develop, our rookies and Williams. The best thing about this team? We can run every single team in the NBA off the floor. Our quickness, and conditioning is top notch and will allow us to score quick and in large amounts.

Now compare this team to what Mullin had started with. Who the hell were the Warriors before? What was their plan? Where were they going to be in 2 years with the current roster? Who was their leader? Their future?



Now tell me where Mullin failed.


Good post!

I do like some of the current make up of today's roster better than last season's.

With Ronnie T, Stephen Jackson, and Biedrens, the team now has three players who can play defense. I look at Ronnie T as an upgrade over Pietrus (who should have never been playing the position) at backup power forward.

A .482 winning percentage and one playoff appearance over the course of four seasons, however, are not things to gloat about.

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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:10 pm
A .482 winning percentage and one playoff appearance over the course of four seasons, however, are not things to gloat about.


Yes of course it's bad to look at, but it's all situational. In the prior years before Mullin took over our record was so much worse.

02-03: 38-44
01-02: 21-61
00-01: 17-65
99-00: 19-63
98-99:21-29 (shortened season due to lockout)
97-98: 19-63
Total: 135-325
% = .29

It's all relative man. 10 years ago we were 19 and 63. That is just sickening. At least now we're +.500 and it seems that we are improving every year.[/quote]
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» Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:24 pm
ALL are valid points (both wrong and right)..HOWEVER, Nellie won't be around forever so we should relish the times we have together with a decent coach. Since Nellie's time with the NBA is limited, look for him to try everything in his power to try and win a Championship before his retirement..fortunately, for us, that team would be us!

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