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If Stephen Jackson goes to jail . . .

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:47 pm
by Thunder
Would that really be a bad thing for the Warriors?

I mean, he is a talented player and has shown some solid D the past few games but he is at a position where we are more than wealthy with Pietrus, Barnes, Ellis, Azubuike, and JRich when he gets back.

Jax going to jail would open a void in his contract, essentially turning him into a expiring contract. The money saved could be used to lock up Biedrins, Ellis, or Pietrus long term. Meanwhile the logjam at SG/SF gets a little looser and the Warriors are still running strong with Big Al.

I certainly don't wish the worst on S-Jax or anything, but if the chips happen to fall this way the Warriors might be able to solve a lot of cap issues. It is even possible Mullin knew this might happen which would be why he took him in the deal (a stretch I know, but a possibility). Either way it will be interesting to see what happens on his Feb. 7th court date.


Of course there is the possibility that he won't come close to spending time in the clink. He is, after all, a rich man in America and the justice system is more than forgiving to people of his financial status.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:05 pm
by Lanevooo.
Why is Sjax going to jail?

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:12 pm
by dsigns
Of course Mullin knew this would happen. Thats 1 of the great things about the trade. We either get a solid player or cap relief.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:20 pm
by TMC
dsigns wrote:Of course Mullin knew this would happen. Thats 1 of the great things about the trade. We either get a solid player or cap relief.


That's not cap relief. Cap relief is getting rid of a player that doesn't help the team. That would be a big blow to the team playoff hopes. S-Jax is our best forward til J-Rich comes back... and one of the few that plays some defense.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:34 pm
by tHe_pEsTiLeNcE
Of course there is the possibility that he won't come close to spending time in the clink. He is, after all, a rich man in America and the justice system is more than forgiving to people of his financial status.

Not to mention that HES INNOCENT!!!!!!!

That said, if an innocent man going to jail is what we need to better the Warriors then so be it.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:34 pm
by uptempo
TMC wrote:
dsigns wrote:Of course Mullin knew this would happen. Thats 1 of the great things about the trade. We either get a solid player or cap relief.


That's not cap relief. Cap relief is getting rid of a player that doesn't help the team. That would be a big blow to the team playoff hopes. S-Jax is our best forward til J-Rich comes back... and one of the few that plays some defense.


Great take on things, TMC.

Cap relief? Jail? The team traded for Jackson to upgrade the roster.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:40 pm
by zshook
He is not going to jail.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:42 pm
by Squalldip
TMC wrote:
dsigns wrote:Of course Mullin knew this would happen. Thats 1 of the great things about the trade. We either get a solid player or cap relief.


That's not cap relief. Cap relief is getting rid of a player that doesn't help the team. That would be a big blow to the team playoff hopes. S-Jax is our best forward til J-Rich comes back... and one of the few that plays some defense.


TMC got it right, how does this help the Warriors at all, other then $$ in the offseason, and as Warriors fans we shouldn't be looking that far into the future, we need to be looking at tonight's game against the Nets.

And maybe some of you haven't noticed but the Warriors defense has awaken since this trade and thats thanks to Jackson and the other new players. I'm not talkin about PPGA im talkin about TOs and deflections.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:01 pm
by 32
How about this...

Even if he goes to jail, it won't drastically hurt the roster.

Stephen Jackson has been great, as far as defense and shooting, but don't forget, he's taking time away from Kelenna Azuibuke (who put up 28, the game before the trade) and Matt Barnes (whose due to start shooting well again). If Jackson does go to prison (which he won't), the Warriors have capable backups at the 2/3 spots.

It'll hurt... but it won't dramatically hinder us. Losing a guy like Biedrins or Baron Davis would hurt a lot worse because their backups are so far behind them.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:08 pm
by tHe_pEsTiLeNcE
#32 wrote:How about this...

Even if he goes to jail, it won't drastically hurt the roster.

Stephen Jackson has been great, as far as defense and shooting, but don't forget, he's taking time away from Kelenna Azuibuke (who put up 28, the game before the trade) and Matt Barnes (whose due to start shooting well again). If Jackson does go to prison (which he won't), the Warriors have capable backups at the 2/3 spots.

It'll hurt... but it won't dramatically hinder us. Losing a guy like Biedrins or Baron Davis would hurt a lot worse because their backups are so far behind them.

Exactly, I'd go as far as to say that Monta is less valuable to us this year than a guy like Harrington, because there are competent backups to fill in for him.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:57 am
by TMC
#32 wrote:How about this...

Even if he goes to jail, it won't drastically hurt the roster.

Stephen Jackson has been great, as far as defense and shooting, but don't forget, he's taking time away from Kelenna Azuibuke (who put up 28, the game before the trade) and Matt Barnes (whose due to start shooting well again). If Jackson does go to prison (which he won't), the Warriors have capable backups at the 2/3 spots.

It'll hurt... but it won't dramatically hinder us. Losing a guy like Biedrins or Baron Davis would hurt a lot worse because their backups are so far behind them.


Yeah, right. My point is that it wouldn't benefit the team at all, although it's true that losing Biedrins, Baron or Harrington would hurt more. But that wasn't the point. This was strictly about Jax court trial, not about injuries or something like that...

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:44 am
by -------------------------
If stephen jackson goes to jail........I say we sign Latrell Sprewell. Seriously. We should sign him anyways. And trade for Fortson. Both those dont wanna play ball im sure theyd be happy on the bench collecting their weekly 50,000-100,000 grand paychecks.

But wed have the baddest squad in the NBA, no one would want funk with the Oakland Warriors.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:21 pm
by 32
TMC wrote:
#32 wrote:How about this...

Even if he goes to jail, it won't drastically hurt the roster.

Stephen Jackson has been great, as far as defense and shooting, but don't forget, he's taking time away from Kelenna Azuibuke (who put up 28, the game before the trade) and Matt Barnes (whose due to start shooting well again). If Jackson does go to prison (which he won't), the Warriors have capable backups at the 2/3 spots.

It'll hurt... but it won't dramatically hinder us. Losing a guy like Biedrins or Baron Davis would hurt a lot worse because their backups are so far behind them.


Yeah, right. My point is that it wouldn't benefit the team at all, although it's true that losing Biedrins, Baron or Harrington would hurt more. But that wasn't the point. This was strictly about Jax court trial, not about injuries or something like that...

Well, my point is that, comparitavely speaking, losing Stephen Jackson is one of the more mild things that could happen to the Warriors. Losing any player is always gonna hurt. But our team won't sink with SJax out because we've got capable backups.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:23 pm
by uptempo
tradedunleavy wrote:If stephen jackson goes to jail........I say we sign Latrell Sprewell. Seriously. We should sign him anyways. And trade for Fortson. Both those dont wanna play ball im sure theyd be happy on the bench collecting their weekly 50,000-100,000 grand paychecks.

But wed have the baddest squad in the NBA, no one would want funk with the Oakland Warriors.


Following your line of reasoning, should the team also entertain bringing back Byron Houston?

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:10 pm
by -------------------------
uptempo wrote:
Following your line of reasoning, should the team also entertain bringing back Byron Houston?


Whose that? Maybe Oakley as an assistant? He could collect debts for Warrior players so they dont get their hands dirty.