EMan32 wrote:im still confused...it looks like a starting five fantasy draft with legends
What it is is that we workout the draft order, like for the fantasy leagues, then we start by all picking a coach then the players, out of all the coaches and all the players in nba history. The factors determining how good a player is are:
1. Production of that player ie. Stats based but relevant to competition as well so Wilt Chamberlain's production, though incredible, would not have been so great in the current era but he is rated very highly because he produced so much still.
2. Length of high performance in career; So A guy like Bill Walton, though a great player, was only great for a few seasons and was beseiged by injuries that limited his career. He is rated quite highly but you only get a few good years out of him and not ten or more years like you do for someone like Magic Johnson, who was great for over a decade, every single year and did not miss much due to injury.
3. Attitude; This one is somewhat harder to scale but basically for a guy like Artest, he is a cancer to his teams a fair bit and tends to stuff up the chemistry quite a bit. He is talented but his attitude is a major factor as well.
4. Success; MVPs, individual awards and championships. Obviously some scrub that was twelveth man on the legendary Celtics teams that won eight straight championships is not rated higher than Karl Malone but the point here is what value did a player that won championships have in his team winning those championships. We all know Michael Jordan was by far the main reason the Bulls won so many championships and that is a big reason he is the best player ever.
Basically you go for the superstars, from whatever era but the key is to try and workout which stars are better ie. The older era players tend to be viewed as less talented as the modern day stars because obviously they were but we try to compare from era to era, so Bill Russell, though not as talented as David Robinson, was greater in his era than Robinson was in his, though not by far, but he was. Thus, Bill Russell is rated higher than the Admiral.
I hope everyone understands the criteria, it is not 100% calculatable and by that I mean it is not absolutely clear which superstars are better than others, but we try to use the above factors in rating them (we don't attribute a ranking for each player alltime but we can say pretty well how good a player is going by the criteria).
What we did, and you go through the thread and see that, is that Pest told us to choose the best season of each player in our team and then he submitted the stats for that year of each player to a certain website and those stats were used in simulations of teams versus teams. Again, go through the threads I brought back from over a year ago and you can see.
Very interactive and definately a nice activity over the holidays we can all do