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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:06 am
by TMC
#32 wrote:Hey, just to put a new twist on this thread... would anybody say that Matt Barnes has, so far, been the kind of player we've always wanted Mike Dunleavy to be...?


No. We're happy with Barnes 'cos nobody expected much from him, so he's having a hell of a season. It would be different if Barnes were a #3 pick that was supposed to turn the team around. People wouldn't boo so much, but still would have been some resentment from a #3 pick being just a role player.

Is it fair?. No... but it happens.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 10:00 am
by uptempo
TMC wrote:
#32 wrote:Hey, just to put a new twist on this thread... would anybody say that Matt Barnes has, so far, been the kind of player we've always wanted Mike Dunleavy to be...?


No. We're happy with Barnes 'cos nobody expected much from him, so he's having a hell of a season. It would be different if Barnes were a #3 pick that was supposed to turn the team around. People wouldn't boo so much, but still would have been some resentment from a #3 pick being just a role player.

Is it fair?. No... but it happens.


Great question and great answer.

Barnes and Dunleavy are two different types of players; Barnes has NBA talent and Dunleavy does not.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:31 pm
by cladden
Mike has actually been pretty effective off the bench this season. Just not 3rd overall effective. Cut his contract in half and I\d say he was a nice part of the team. He\s turned a few games around for us this season.

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:08 pm
by coltraning
cladden wrote:Mike has actually been pretty effective off the bench this season. Just not 3rd overall effective. Cut his contract in half and I\d say he was a nice part of the team. He\s turned a few games around for us this season.

absolutely - as a 2nd round solid off the bench guy making a lower level salary, no issues with Dung. As a grossly overpaid 3rd pick he looks like a major underachiever. It's exactly why, as others have said, Barnes is such a pleasant surprise, same way everyone felt about Cardinal and Earl Boykins, and why Joe Smith, Donyell Marshall, Todd Fuller and Joe Barry were so vilified - perception is 9/10ths of the awe (or lack thereof).

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:15 pm
by TMC
coltraning wrote:absolutely - as a 2nd round solid off the bench guy making a lower level salary, no issues with Dung. As a grossly overpaid 3rd pick he looks like a major underachiever. It's exactly why, as others have said, Barnes is such a pleasant surprise, same way everyone felt about Cardinal and Earl Boykins, and why Joe Smith, Donyell Marshall, Todd Fuller and Joe Barry were so vilified - perception is 9/10ths of the awe (or lack thereof).


Except Todd Fuller sucks, no matter where... He sucked as a first rounder, and would suck as an undrafted free agent.

Guess this means I like Dun better than Fuller. See?. I can give the man props, too. :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:24 pm
by tHe_pEsTiLeNcE
todd fuller even sucks in australia, I didn't know it was possible

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:15 pm
by migya
cladden wrote:Mike has actually been pretty effective off the bench this season. Just not 3rd overall effective. Cut his contract in half and I\d say he was a nice part of the team. He\s turned a few games around for us this season.



That's it!

dun is a #3 pick and that is what makes him such a bust! If he was a middle of the 1st round pick or a 2nd rounder, he'd be decent as a role player, maybe

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:17 pm
by migya
tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:todd fuller even sucks in australia, I didn't know it was possible



I'll assume this wasn't a low blow Pesty :wink:

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:01 am
by J-Rich
He's proving to be a very valuable player!!! I dunno know how long his contract is? Maybe it's just going to be guaranteed till the end of the season??? But some team will make an offer to this guy maybe not a big contract but enough to maybe make the W's salary cap situation a little bit more difficult!!!

Ellis, MP and Barnes fit very well in Nellie's system!!! I don't see that even with a healthy JR. The two main scorers last season were JR and Baron. Plus JR has proven his ball handling is not that great so it makes it hard for him to create shots in the wide open game...I personally think it will be hard to see the old JR of old scoring 23-24 points a game!!! He'll have a hard time even getting 18-19 pts a game!!!

Keep a eye on Barnes on the offseason!!! We need to retain this guy big time!!! His game reminds me of a poor man's Marion!!!

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:56 am
by carlgo
migya wrote:
tHe_pEsTiLeNcE wrote:todd fuller even sucks in australia, I didn't know it was possible



I'll assume this wasn't a low blow Pesty :wink:


He is still playing? How embarrassing. In reference to the low blow, he must have blackmail videos on basketball executives and coaches all around the world.